{"id":10034,"date":"2018-09-05T10:01:56","date_gmt":"2018-09-05T10:01:56","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/test.epi.org.mk\/?p=10034"},"modified":"2019-02-20T10:07:10","modified_gmt":"2019-02-20T10:07:10","slug":"konsenzus-per-perspektiven-euroatlantike-por-jo-edhe-per-referendumin","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/epi.org.mk\/sq\/post\/10034?lang=sq","title":{"rendered":"Konsenzus p\u00ebr perspektiv\u00ebn euroatlantike, por jo edhe p\u00ebr referendumin"},"content":{"rendered":"

T\u00eb h\u00ebn\u00ebn (3 shtator 2018) n\u00eb hotel Merriott u mbajt tryez\u00eb e rrumbullak\u00ebt me titullin \u201cArdhm\u00ebri euroatlantike p\u00ebr Maqedonin\u00eb?\u201d, n\u00eb t\u00eb cil\u00ebn mor\u00ebn pjes\u00eb Z.\u00a0Nikolla Dimitrov<\/strong>, ministri i pun\u00ebve t\u00eb jashtme t\u00eb Republik\u00ebs s\u00eb Maqedonis\u00eb, p\u00ebrfaq\u00ebsuesi special p\u00ebr Evrop\u00ebn Juglindore, Turqin\u00eb dhe shtetet e EFTA t\u00eb R.F t\u00eb Gjermanis\u00eb, ambasadori d-r.\u00a0Kristijan Hellbah<\/strong>, Z.\u00a0Nikolla Poposki<\/strong>, kryetar i K\u00ebshillit nacional p\u00ebr eurointegrime, si dhe Z.\u00a0Rusllan Stefanov\u00a0<\/strong>nga Qendra p\u00ebr studim t\u00eb demokracis\u00eb n\u00eb Sofje, kurse debat\u00ebn e moderoi d-r.\u00a0Simonida Kacarska<\/strong>, drejtoresh\u00eb e EPI.<\/p>\n

Tryez\u00ebn e rrumbullak\u00ebt e organizuan Aspen Instituti nga Berlini, Instituti p\u00ebr politik\u00eb evropiane \u2013 Shkup, Instituti p\u00ebr demokraci \u201cSocietas Civilis\u201d-Shkup, si dhe Qendra p\u00ebr analiza ekonomike, me p\u00ebrkrahje nga Ministria p\u00ebr pun\u00eb t\u00eb jashtme t\u00eb Republik\u00ebs Federale t\u00eb Gjermanis\u00eb.<\/p>\n

N\u00eb tryez\u00ebn e rrumbullak\u00ebt u diskutua p\u00ebr referendumin e ardhsh\u00ebm dhe r\u00ebnd\u00ebsin\u00eb e rezultatit t\u00eb tij, si dhe p\u00ebrparimin e Republik\u00ebs s\u00eb Maqedonis\u00eb n\u00eb integrimet evropiane. P\u00ebrfaq\u00ebsuesit e institucioneve, p\u00ebrfaq\u00ebsuesit e misioneve diplomatike, organizatat qytetare dhe ekspert\u00ebt e pavarur kishin mund\u00ebsin\u00eb t\u00eb parashtrojn\u00eb pyetje dhe t\u00eb ky\u00e7en n\u00eb diskutim pas fjalimeve hyr\u00ebse t\u00eb fol\u00ebsve.<\/p>\n

\"\"Ministri Dimitrov deklaroi se \u00ebsht\u00eb i bindur p\u00ebr rezultate pozitive nga referendumi. Megjithat\u00eb, n\u00eb rast t\u00eb rezultateve negative nga referendumi, ai konsideron se nuk \u00ebsht\u00eb me r\u00ebnd\u00ebsi a do t\u00eb ket\u00eb zgjedhje t\u00eb parakohshme parlamentare apo jo, ngase shteti nuk do t\u00eb ket\u00eb ardhm\u00ebri t\u00eb sigurt\u00eb. \u201cVendos\u00ebm sinqerisht, haptazi dhe me kurajo t\u2019i zgjidhim problemet. Arrit\u00ebm t\u00eb mbyllim nj\u00eb \u00e7\u00ebshtje q\u00eb na t\u00ebrhiqte pas me tre dekada dhe t\u2019i hapim dyert e ardhm\u00ebris\u00eb. B\u00ebhet fjal\u00eb p\u00ebr stabilitetin, sigurin\u00eb dhe mir\u00ebqenien ton\u00eb financiare, si dhe qasje n\u00eb mjetin m\u00eb t\u00eb mir\u00eb p\u00ebr reforma \u2013 negociatat p\u00ebr aderim me BE-n\u00eb. Zgjidhja \u00ebsht\u00eb k\u00ebtu dhe na mbetet neve t\u00eb vendosim se a do t\u00eb l\u00ebvizim drejt integrimeve dhe ardhm\u00ebris\u00eb, apo do t\u00eb kthehemi n\u00eb izolim\u201d, tha ministri Dimitrov, n\u00eb konferenc\u00ebn p\u00ebr shtyp q\u00eb u mbajt para eventit.<\/p>\n

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Gjat\u00eb tryez\u00ebs s\u00eb rrumbullak\u00ebt, ministri Dimitrov iu referua munges\u00ebs s\u00eb q\u00ebndrimit t\u00eb partis\u00eb m\u00eb t\u00eb madhe opozicionare p\u00ebr referendumin. \u201cKuptohet q\u00eb qytetar\u00ebt do t\u00eb vendosin vet\u00eb, megjithat\u00eb ne kemi p\u00ebr detyr\u00eb t\u00eb jemi t\u00eb sinqert\u00eb dhe t\u00eb themi \u201cja pse mendojm\u00eb q\u00eb kjo \u00ebsht\u00eb gj\u00eb e mir\u00eb p\u00ebr Maqedonin\u00eb\u201d. Kjo nuk ka lidhje as me Qeverin\u00eb e as me asnji parti politike. Pyetja ka lidhje me ardhm\u00ebrin\u00eb e Maqedonis\u00eb. Dhe t\u00eb mos ngureni t\u00eb thoni un\u00eb mendoj k\u00ebshtu dhe p\u00ebr mua kjo \u00ebsht\u00eb pap\u00ebrgjegj\u00ebsi\u201d, deklaroi Dimitrov gjat\u00eb diskutimit.<\/p>\n

P\u00ebrfaq\u00ebsuesi special i MPJ t\u00eb Gjermanis\u00eb, Z. Hellbah, i porositi qytetar\u00ebt dhe partit\u00eb politike t\u00eb mos e l\u00ebshojn\u00eb shansin, sepse sipas atij, nuk ka plan B p\u00ebr Maqedonin\u00eb. \u201cShteti juaj ka perspektiv\u00eb euroatlantike. P\u00ebr fat t\u00eb keq, integrimi juaj evropian stagnoi p\u00ebr shkak t\u00eb problemit me emrin. Kjo \u00e7\u00ebshtje zgjati m\u00eb gjat\u00eb se q\u00eb duhej dhe jo vet\u00ebm q\u00eb e t\u00ebrhoqi pas shtetin, por ishte e dhimbshme edhe p\u00ebr neve. Interesi yn\u00eb \u00ebsht\u00eb t\u00eb afrojm\u00eb jo vet\u00ebm shtetin tuaj, por gjith\u00eb rajonin e Ballkanit Per\u00ebndimor kah BE-ja dhe NATO, dhe ky interes, para se gjithash, \u00ebsht\u00eb nga aspekti i sigurimit\u201d deklaroi Hellbah gjat\u00eb konferenc\u00ebs p\u00ebr shtyp.<\/p>\n

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\u201cKy \u00ebsht\u00eb lajmi m\u00eb i mir\u00eb q\u00eb e morr\u00ebm vitet e fundit nga Ballkani Per\u00ebndimor dhe p\u00ebr ne \u00ebsht\u00eb shum\u00eb dometh\u00ebn\u00ebse q\u00eb kjo marr\u00ebveshje t\u00eb zbatohet. Ju p\u00ebr ne do t\u00eb jeni Maqedonas, do t\u00eb flisni gjuh\u00ebn maqedone dhe e gjith\u00eb kjo \u00ebsht\u00eb e garantuar me marr\u00ebveshjen q\u00eb u arrit. Duam t\u2019ju shohim edhe Ju si pjes\u00eb t\u00eb Evrop\u00ebs\u201d, shtoi ai.<\/p>\n

Gjat\u00eb diskutimit, Z. Hellbah iu referua mos qart\u00ebsimit t\u00eb partis\u00eb m\u00eb t\u00eb madhe opozitare p\u00ebr referendumin, me \u00e7rast porositi q\u00eb vendimi i opozit\u00ebs mund t\u00eb b\u00ebj\u00eb dallim n\u00eb kahje t\u00eb mir\u00eb ose t\u00eb keqe, q\u00eb \u00ebsht\u00eb me t\u00eb v\u00ebrtet\u00eb serioze dhe q\u00eb duhet t\u00eb gjitha pal\u00ebt t\u00eb bartin p\u00ebrgjegj\u00ebsi p\u00ebr k\u00ebt\u00eb moment.<\/p>\n

Kryetari i K\u00ebshillit nacional p\u00ebr eurointegrime dhe ish minist\u00ebr i pun\u00ebve t\u00eb jashtme, Nikolla Poposki, deklaroi q\u00eb opozita q\u00ebndron pas q\u00ebndrimit se zgjedhja m\u00eb e mir\u00eb p\u00ebr Maqedonin\u00eb \u00ebsht\u00eb integrimi euroatlantik.<\/p>\n

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\u201cMegjithat\u00eb, n\u00ebse d\u00ebshirojm\u00eb konsenzus nacional, duhet ata q\u00eb jan\u00eb pjes\u00eb e Qeveris\u00eb, t\u00eb lejojn\u00eb mbikqyrje kritike t\u00eb pun\u00ebve. Ajo q\u00eb \u00ebsht\u00eb e nevojshme p\u00ebr momentin \u00ebsht\u00eb q\u00eb t\u00eb dalim nga mitet dhe t\u00eb jemi real\u201d, tha Poposki n\u00eb tryez\u00ebn e rrumbullak\u00ebt, lidhur me pyetjen e referendumit. Ai shtoi q\u00eb p\u00ebrderisa qeveria duhet t\u00eb jet\u00eb e p\u00ebrgaditur t\u00eb pranon kritika dhe t\u00eb mos e ndan popullin n\u00eb kuptimin \u201cn\u00ebse jeni p\u00ebr NATO dhe BE, at\u00ebher nuk jeni me ne\u201d dhe \u201cn\u00ebse nuk jnei me NATO dhe BE, at\u00ebher\u00eb nuk jeni me ne\u201d.<\/p>\n

I pyetur lidhur me q\u00ebndrimin e VMRO-DPMNE, apo q\u00ebndrimin personal p\u00ebr referendumin, ai u p\u00ebrgjigj se n\u00ebse duhet t\u00eb vendos\u00eb ai, at\u00ebher\u00eb q\u00ebndrimin partiak do ta nd\u00ebrtonte me konsultime me principin \u201cnj\u00eb njeri \u2013 nj\u00eb vot\u00eb\u201d.<\/p>\n

\u201c\u00cbsht\u00eb shum\u00eb e gabuar n\u00ebse keni q\u00ebndrim t\u00eb ndrysh\u00ebm n\u00eb at\u00eb se \u00e7ka mendon shumica dhe \u00e7ka mendon elita. Por kur e b\u00ebni at\u00eb duhet shum haptazi dhe n\u00eb m\u00ebnyr\u00eb direkte t\u2019i informoni p\u00ebr opsionet. Don t\u00eb thot\u00eb, aq sa duhet t\u2019ju thoni se sa segmente t\u00eb k\u00ebqija ka marr\u00ebveshja, duhet t\u2019ju thoni edhe se cilat jan\u00eb pasojat nga d\u00ebshtimi apo moszbatimi i marr\u00ebveshjes\u201d, shtoi Poposki.<\/p>\n

Megjithat\u00eb, kahja e Maqedonis\u00eb, sipas Poposkit, \u00ebsht\u00eb e qart\u00eb. \u201cNeve NATO do t\u00eb na jep sinjal t\u00eb mir\u00eb p\u00ebr siguri dhe do t\u00eb kontribuon kah investimet e shumta. Aderimi n\u00eb BE do t\u00eb kontribuon kah jetesa m\u00eb e mir\u00eb e qytetar\u00ebve.N\u00eb fund t\u00eb dit\u00ebs, e gjitha varet nga ne\u201d, tha Poposki lidhur me kahjen strategjiken\u00eb shtet.<\/p>\n

Rusllan Stefanov nga Qendra p\u00ebr studim t\u00eb demokracis\u00eb n\u00eb Sofje e ndau eksperienc\u00ebn nga shtetet q\u00eb aderuan n\u00eb BE n\u00eb t\u00eb kaluar\u00ebn e af\u00ebrme. \u201cN\u00ebse shohim Bullgarin\u00eb, Kroacin\u00eb, Romanin\u00eb dhe t\u00eb tjerat, shohim q\u00eb nuk zgjidhen t\u00eb gjitha problemet me hyrjen n\u00eb BE. Mir\u00ebpo, me p\u00ebrdorimin e p\u00ebrfitimeve dhe instrumenteve t\u00eb BE-s\u00eb, shtetet e p\u00ebrmir\u00ebsuan cil\u00ebsin\u00eb e jet\u00ebs s\u00eb qytetar\u00ebve\u201d, tha Stefanov.<\/p>\n

\"\"Ai shtoi se \u201cpam\u00eb shum\u00eb debate p\u00ebr p\u00ebrfitimet\u00a0 nga BE-ja, dhe realiteti \u00ebsht\u00eb q\u00eb nuk ka opsione tjera p\u00ebr t\u00eb. Ne jemi t\u00eb fokusuar n\u00eb at\u00eb se cili \u00ebsht\u00eb interesi i p\u00ebrbashk\u00ebt p\u00ebr t\u00eb gjith\u00eb qytetar\u00ebt dhe ai \u00ebsht\u00eb lufta kund\u00ebr korrupsionit, infrastruktur\u00eb e p\u00ebrmir\u00ebsuar dhe kushte p\u00ebr biznes\u201d.<\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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